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1448) Original Red Hooker 
Redhooker@aol.com
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10-16-2006 10:45 AM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Now I think if Red Hook was called
Cypress Tree Island it would have been a much better place, would have received much more respect. Would have made you feel better saying I come from Cypress Tree Island rather than Red Hook. My opinion.

Louise **Red Hook** 10-16-2006 04:43 PM
Gee Original Red Hooker, you sound ashamed to say you come from Red Hook? If you feel like you would like to say Cypress Tree Island then that is your opinion, say it BUT WE come from RED HOOK!!!! You are for sure able to voice your opinion. Louise
Yes Lucy, Red Hook Forever....

Lynne 10-16-2006 05:54 PM
I honestly have never received any disrespect or negative reactions when I say I am from Red Hook. I actually get questions from people about what it was like, and so forth. I doubt very much people would respond with any interest if I said I came from Cypress Tree Island, there is no personality to that name, no history, and the main fact of the matter is, Red Hook unique, always was, always will be. With such eloquent historians such as John Burkhart sharing his memories and history of Red Hook, its legend will go on for a long time. My opinion.

babyann 10-17-2006 05:21 PM
ORH my theory is your a hacker, enjoying a debate, don't waste our space we Red Hookers respect our own space, our own stories, Who Said We get No Respect????? YOU???? if you had any respect you would Idenify yourself CTI

Betty Grillo/Avigliano 10-18-2006 09:18 AM
I think if I said to someone that I came from Cypress Tree Island, They wouldn't know where it was.
Never heard anyone use that before.

Everyone who is on this site is proud to be a Red Hooker

BABYANN 10-18-2006 05:14 PM
TO ALL WHO READ THIS ENTRY, SHOULD NOT RESPOND TO IT. FEEDING A FUNGUS ONLY GROWNS BIGGER AND UGLIER
RED HOOK

madeline faiella 10-19-2006 07:42 AM
If you are a real hooker you would of never said the things you said about changing RED HOOK to what cypress trees island (boo hoo) for you
keep it real
either sit on the pot or get off of it
have respect for yourself we are who we are and no name can ever change us RED HOOKER know matter were we go in life ,
In the City, other States or Countries we will always be Proud to say we are from RED HOOK Brooklyn.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it .
Sorry Babyann i did listen to you , but i had to get that off my chest
1447) Muriel (McShea) Choate 
MurielChoate@aol.com
Location:
Hollywood, FL
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10-16-2006 10:23 AM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Hi DeBock, this is in response to your posting #1426. Yes, I have a postcard photo of the SS United States - it was taken just as the ship was passing lower Manhattan. I also have what they call a "souvenier log" - it indicates all the important stats for the ship. If you're interested, and if it's possible, I'll have my husband scan the photo and card and send them to you. By the way, I was fortunate enough to have had the pleasure of sailing to Europe on this ship in late August 1956 and returning on the same ship 5 weeks later. It was a wonderous journey.
1446) Annmarie Murphy 
Location:
Eatontown N J
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10-16-2006 09:28 AM  Write a comment

Hi Ed, thanks anyway, but I just bought a new computer, I gave up on the old one freezing up all the time when trying to send mail...talk to you soon ...Annmarie
1445) Eileen Coughlin 
GMCeileen@AOl.Com
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10-16-2006 07:34 AM  Write a comment Send E-mail

This is to Frank C
Where is Tar Island?
I heard it before.
Thank You
Eileen

John Burkard, Red Hook 10-16-2006 08:17 AM
Hello Eileen, I never heard of Tar Island,I think the reference is to "Tar Beach" (and you know storys do change as fast as time passes) which was everyones rooftop getto haven in the sun. Probably we all went up to the roofs and got a tan in those days because we couldn't afford to get to the beach.

frank c 10-16-2006 12:33 PM
eileen: the lot between columbia and dwight streets and verona was nicknamed tar island.a sonoco gas station was built on this lot in 1951 or so. it has since been replaced by homes frank c

frank c 10-16-2006 12:55 PM
john: the very small lot across the st. delavan st. we as kids called paradise island.plus we played a lot of softball on tar island for a very short time. frank c.
1444) ed murphy 
es_murphy@verizon.net
Location:
carthage n, y.
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10-15-2006 09:21 PM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Hi Kathy Murray and Maria Monaco please send me your emails and phone #'s. my sister AnnMarie would like to correspond with both of you and anyone else she knew from red hook. she sometimes has trouble sending stuff on the computer.thanks, so much. God bless, ed murphy
1443) maryann paladino 
bklynstar307@aol.com
Location:
florida
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10-15-2006 02:05 PM  Write a comment Send E-mail

hi mad joanne i had the website on yahoo but lost it can u give it to me again. hope your birthday was a good one. on my way down to court. st. in a few weeks to see everyone
1442) Joe Militano 
jmsupt@verizon.net
Location:
NJ
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10-14-2006 04:11 PM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Roy Caputo:
I'll be sure to give Jimmy your regards.

Roy 10-14-2006 11:32 PM
Thanks Joe.
1441) Frank DiMeglio 
frankiedim@yahoo.com
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Bayonne, NJ
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10-14-2006 12:04 PM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Frank C.

Juliette's was located on Old man Bartlett's lot, where he kept old wagons and lumber. We stole his wagons to build our election day fires. Bartlett had two sons Bill and Buddy.
Bill became a Captain in the Army in World War 2 and Buddy was a pretty good gymast in Manual Training High School, circa 1937-1941. They lived on Huntington Street between Columbia and Hicks Street. Some pretty good stickball and fist ball players lived on that street. Bill Bartlett, Joe and Tom Ryan, Tommie O'Toole, Luke
and Pat O'Donnel, William Morrisey, Tony Vargss, Pat Marcune, Frank Montelione, Sunny Garguilo, Tony Recito, Tucker etc. Then we had the best handball player in the neighborhood, Frank Tramantano also known as Splinter.

red hook 10-15-2006 08:12 AM
frank d. knew most of guys mentioned. saw mike recito 2 wks ago. my family lived on tar island, hung out in front of the candy store on columbia st. frank c.
1440) Patty Cozzati Laslo 
plaslo4@aol.com
Location:
Naples, Florida
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10-14-2006 08:36 AM  Write a comment Send E-mail

FOR MARK PHILLIPS & JOHN BURKARD
Just read the October Happenings Feature "Fort Defiance returns to Red Hook". I think that you both are doing a wonderful job in having Red Hook recognized for its rightful place in history. May all the Red Hook "Kids", however old and wherever they may be, take pride in their roots.
Many thanks for your efforts.

John Burkard, Red Hook 10-14-2006 09:01 PM
Thanks Patty, Mark has been wonderful bringing this Red Hook heritage to everyones attention on his website. My Father attended school in Red Hook, as well as myself, and my seven children. None of this valuable history was ever taught in our school system public or private. My ultimate goal is to see it included in the history curriculum at all NY City Schools. American history is the forgotten subject today, our schools are failing our kids and our Country. They need to know how this great nation began, its values, hopes and dreams, and opportunites for all our citizens.
1439) Betty Grillo/Avigliano 
BAIV62@aol.com
Location:
NJ
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10-13-2006 11:30 AM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Can someone please give me the site for the family pictures.

Thank you
1438) johnny perna 
Location:
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10-12-2006 07:41 PM  Write a comment

hi lucille ...every word you said was true ...frankie did own that huge coop ...and your job was cleaning it ...... i will never forget those days lucille ..johnny

Lucy Suarez 10-13-2006 06:54 AM
Hey! Johnny... Yep! It was such a rotten job!~ They were living better than we were!The piedgons. And boy when something was wrong with them he'd pay any price to get them well again. The birds had more value to him than anything or anyone else! And I will never forget those days! On the positive side ...I remeber your Sunday dinners Your Mom would make Italian food , and always serve seltzer! I believe you guys ate every week between 1 & 2:00 Did I remeber correctly? Also I can remember your Dad (Pern/Terri)
1437) B. Jean Mahon 
eanjay@bellsouth.net
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10-12-2006 05:36 PM  Write a comment Send E-mail

I was born in Bklyn in1929 and lived there til I was married in 1949. Went to Holy Name, and Manual Training. Graduated from MTHS in 1947; Holy Name in 1943. It would be interesting to know if anyone is still around who remembers me!

.Ben Butler 10-13-2006 06:52 AM
Dear Miss Jean...When was the last time you heard this song.
Probably with Mrs. Wolf at the auditorium piano.

Oh a students life in the Manuel High, is a round of fun.

For the work's worthwhile and the play is real, when studies done.
We will send out teams that are filled with zeal to win.

As they hear our far flung cry.

For it's cheer, cheer,
cheer once agian.

For good old Manuel High.
-------
Benny "Basketball Team " Butler
Class of 55.

MTHS was a geat school with so many good people in it.
PS: For two years in a row I held the record on the team for most missed shots. That is until I grew to 6'5", then it changed.

Hope you liked the song.
1436) John Burkard, Red Hook 
redhookhistory@aol.com
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10-12-2006 04:09 PM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Here's something for all those looking for phptos of Red Hook, My Good friend Bob Geelan, Historian from Pa sent the web address to me. Log on to www.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/ now pay attention, on the left side of the screen look for digital collections, click on that, then when the screen comes up there's a space to type in your search, type in Red Hook and presto! you will see over 50 various photos 10 at a time. Good luck to all.And thanks Bob for your kindness, we all appreciate it.

Francis Campagna 10-13-2006 05:35 PM
Thank you John for the information. There were some great pictures.
1435) John Ryan 
redcasey@hotmail.com
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New Jersey
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10-12-2006 11:17 AM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Ben Butler,are you the older brother of Brian {Patrick}and Jimmy.

Ben Butler 10-13-2006 07:12 AM
John/Ben
Yes I am "the twins" older brother. We lived on Coffey St.
Van Brunt/Conover and hung out with different groups of friends. Tnat is how it was back in the day. Your name is familiar but I believe you hung with their group. I was three years older. My family moved from THE HOOK in 56 when I was in the Army in Germany. From there we split in three directions. Life got serious. Brian became a Cop in the NYC Port Authority, Jimmy went into the trucking business and I went into the Shipping Business.

John do you have any good stories about the young guys you can tell here.

Best regards
1434) Joe 
jmsupt@verizon.net
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NJ
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10-12-2006 11:16 AM  Write a comment Send E-mail

My brother-in-law, Jim Corr had pidgeon's on his roof. He lived on Wolcott St.,near Conover St.

Rosario (Roy) Caputo 10-13-2006 10:57 PM
Joe, how is Jimmy. We lived down the block from the Corr family. More toward Van Brunt St. I played ball with Ritchie mostly but do remember a few touch football games with Jimmy. I was down the Hook one day they told me about Ritchie. I was heartbroken. We went way back. I was hoping it was not true. Please say hello to Jim for me. He may remember me. Thanks
1433) Lucy (Lucille) Fraser Suarez 
starsaffireone@yahoo.com
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10-12-2006 07:18 AM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Pidgens! YUCKY YUCKY YUCKY! My step dad the late not so great FRANKIE LONGO , was the pidgen king of the point,of Red Hook... We lived at 342 Van Brunt St... Over Franks Barber Shoppe and in the yard he built a very expensive very large nothing butthe best coop...He had over 200 prized Hommers silver bars and such! We had to guard them with our lives! I still hear them coo coo and the smell yuck , guess who was selected to cleran and scrap the coop! He used to go to Rhode Island to race em BIG BUCKS were gambled let me tell ya! Till today I HATE pidgens!!!

John Burkard, Red Hook 10-12-2006 08:43 AM
Right on Lucy. How many Red Hook Moms had to reel in their kids diapers off clothes lines and rewash them because of the pidgeon droppings? I'll bet they are all in agreement with your yucky,yucks.....(LOL)

Tommy B. 10-12-2006 10:31 AM
Hi John,I was reading Time out N.Y. magazine, there was an article about best blocks in N.Y.C. & Vonover & Coffey was the 8th best block & 3rd Place between Court & Smith was 23rd ,if I'm correct that is out of 50 blocks. They also mention when your down by Coffey you can take a walk down by Valentino pier. Now dont forget when you do that you must stop by Defonte's & get one of those Valentino specials,regards!

John Burkard 10-12-2006 11:53 AM
For Tommy B, I live on Coffey St, and I'm suprised to hear about the honor. It makes me especially proud, When I first moved there nearl 50 yrs ago there was no trees, I managed to get all the trees planted with the exception of about four. As to Delfontes, it's the wrong direction from Valentino Pk, but I'll pick up a hero and bring it down to the pier(LOL) Regards, and Thanks for the info, John

babyann 10-12-2006 12:03 PM
Lucy & John B thanks for keeping this event about pigeons alive, My best memories are about my uncles on the roof's of my grandmothers house Carroll St. they would cross 5 houses, to maintain their beloved Pigeons
and as you said yucky was the word, they did stink and god for bid you Interfered with the home coming of these birds
I hated it we were not allowed to play in the yard to much noise and My aunt was not allowed to hang clothes

Lucy Suarez 10-14-2006 07:56 AM
I'll bet(no pun intended!) that most of the wives of pidhen owners never relized just how much gambling was going on with those pidgen races!!! I know it set the mood all week if it was a lose and they'd be joy for a day or too after a win!
1432) Babyann 
nichann9@msn.com
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10-11-2006 01:41 PM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Hello all, anyone remember pigeon clubs in Our neighborhood??? well there was one Charlie Neal on Carroll St. off Columbia in the 50's He sold and raced the pigeons, can anyone name more??? I am sure you remember this and Tommy B. you would say I was a puppy, but you remember too, expecially on Court St. down near highway. I am sure there are some diehards out there today

madeline faiella 10-11-2006 04:06 PM
Matty pinto (RIP) flew his pigons from 69 woodhull st so did frankie mazzella (RIP) 91 woodhull street.
they would race the pigeons every sunday at red hook stadium to see who pigeon would be faster

Tommy B. 10-11-2006 04:27 PM
Hi Mad & Babyann, I do remember Matty Pinto flying pigeons, he did have a kid with him named Ray who practically lived on the roof flying them. I do have a friend Bobby who I hung out with on Woodhull St. who now flys them on Arden Ave in S.I. Now to change the subject I noticed you guys found the Manhattan Special site, take care!

madeline faiella 10-12-2006 06:23 AM
Ben Butler,
Besides buying a pickle for a nickle, gee babyruth,milkyway,
5 ave, honeybites,sugar daddy sucks,etc etc,
Now for a penny!!!!!!!
mike&ike 4 for a penny
red hats 4 penny
red hots penny
malt balls penny
must i go on lol :} m m m :}

babyann 10-12-2006 06:57 AM
hey you two youngens, remember pigeons clubs, had real races for money, pures was $25,000. from California to New York, in which all great homer pigeons flew the show was on channel 13 all about those days when it was really thriving. ask your Uncles about this I am sure they can tell you about the great members like Pat Cooper and Angelo from Carroll St.

Tommy B. 10-12-2006 04:36 PM
Hi Mad & Babyann, dont get angry with me but here is a little sense of humor, this site is going to the birds, everyone seems to have flown the coop! so keep on talking about pigeons, because back in july my whole family was on the site now it seems they have flown south for the winter, do you agree with me. Dont worry I'm not going nowhere I will be keeping in touch as always. Be good!

babyann 10-13-2006 07:54 AM
Tommy B seems that we are stuck to the coop here, we vacation North, don't like the snow, but I got someone to shovel pay them $20.00 each 2 kids so lucky it only snows 2 or 3 times. and as far as entertainment well Movies are good, Home or theatre, restaurants or just enjoying cup of coffee with friends in Starbucks or partying where ever there is always New York City, Plays,Broadway No better place than that we got it all and of course Southbrooklyn.com

madeline faiella 10-13-2006 09:03 AM
babyann
i do remember what your talking about with the tv , racing the pigeons for money, i didnt remember that that they flewto calf; i thought to va and pa etc etc lol
i guess i'm just a pup to young to remember lol :}
Tommy B
dont worry i'm not flying south any time to soon !
i was with your niece Annmarie last sunday with went pumpkin picking anf after we went to state park and ate and laugh and had a good time there was about 30 people just family and friends just having good time

madeline faiella 10-13-2006 09:05 AM
babyann
i do remember what your talking about with the tv , racing the pigeons for money, i didnt remember that that they flewto calf; i thought to va and pa etc etc lol
i guess i'm just a pup to young to remember lol :}
Tommy B
dont worry i'm not flying south any time to soon !
i was with your niece Annmarie last sunday with went pumpkin picking anf after we went to state park and ate and laugh and had a good time there was about 30 people just family and friends just having good time
1431) Babyann 
nichann9@msn.com
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10-11-2006 01:16 PM  Write a comment Send E-mail

hello all, since we are talking about brooklyn, downtown to Redhook, can anyone tell me how many pigeon clubs/store's that were around in the 50's-60's and if there are any left in our great neighborhood. I can remember Charlie Neal's, on Carroll & Columbia Sts. he sold and raced pigeons and that was in the 50's....Tommy B I know you think you were a puppy but many of the die hards still fly them today. and I am sure some old timers remember this
1430) Frank DiMeglio 
frankiedim@yahoo.com
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Bayonne, NJ
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10-11-2006 09:19 AM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Frank C.
I remember Julio's very well. Best lemonice in the world for two cents a white cup. Also hot dogs that made your mouth water for a nickle a piece. Julio had two sons one named after him and I believe the other one was John or Tom.
Julio was a vet from World War 1. He used to tell us kids that the wounded washed out their wounds with urine. Tom Burkhart, can you verify this or is it just another wild tale?

John Burkard, Red Hook 10-11-2006 09:56 AM
Hello Frank, sorry, my war time experience only dates back to when I was in Korea,(51) I would say there aren't many WW1 vets around anymore. I cannot help on your question about washing wounds out with urine, but I do know from my daughter who was supervisor of Laboratory techs in Methodist Hospital that years ago, before her time, they had to taste the urine to determine if it contained excess glucose. Gross, but very dedicated people don't you thin so?

frank 10-11-2006 11:58 AM
thanks for correcting my spelling.he was juliette and i don't recall his sons. do you remember the cork yard at that location during or after ww2 it made quite a fire later on. frank c

babyann 10-13-2006 07:57 AM
by some chance is Larry DeMeglio related to you, I went to 142 and so did he
1429) Joe Militano 
jmsupt@verizon.net
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NJ
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10-10-2006 12:54 PM  Write a comment Send E-mail

Ben Butler: Talking about what a nickle could buy. I lived in East New York during the second WW. I could buy a large loaf of Wonder Bread for 3 cent. Inside were about 5 baloons. The baloons were and still are on the wrapper.

Ben Butler 10-11-2006 07:44 PM
Joe/Ben WOW Silvercup 3 cents.I believe it came out just after the war.The white sponge.
I recall the people would not eat it because they complained it was "Air Bread". The texture was very light and not like Silvercup and Bond Bread that you could also get it unsliced if you wanted it. Remember? Also the best I could do on the Italian Bread was 9 cents a long loaf from Tessey and Frank Bunocore's on Van Brunt in Red Hook. 1940's.
What I would not give for a loaf of Levy's seeded Jewish Rye for 10 cents. It came un wrapped, I would not eat the end with the stamp on it though. I thought it was licked on. I still eat a loaf close to it from Fairway.

How about chocolate Houten bars
2 for a niclel. Pure Chocalate with no wrappers. Nothing could compete with them for the amount you got. A little Chunkie came out around 1950 which I would never buy as a kid, they screwed you for a little piece in foil paper for 5 cents. no way. If anything that got me into understanding weights and measures.
EG: Coke 8oz./Pepsi 12oz., for a nickel. Guess which one I drank. Taste had nothing to do with it.

POST OTHER GREAT BUYS FOR A NICKEL. If onlt I had a time machine.
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