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e.tweedy |
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 2-2-2012 03:47 PM
To Tony
I never thought you were a jerk.
Everyone on this site seems to be nice
except one or two exceptions.
Tony 2-3-2012 03:42 PM
Thanks Elsie, but yeah, I can be a jerk sometimes. Keep up the good work helping the church and all.
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2-2-2012 02:19 PM
A Catholic, a Jew and a Muslim walk into a Buddist temple.....
Me 2-2-2012 02:24 PM
and all were welcomed!
Lol
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e. tweedy |
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Dear Marie.
No one offended me I just wanted to tell all that I am happy with my choice.
I only wish there was something more I could do. I hope all is well with everyone
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PEGGY DELL APORTE-RODRIGUEZ |
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2-2-2012 08:32 AM
THE WEB ADDRESS IS:
www.redhookstar#@*%!
Hope this helps 2-2-2012 10:49 AM
The best thing to do with websites is to write website dot com
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PEGGY DELLA PORTE |
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2-2-2012 07:50 AM
I WANTED TO ADD FOR ALL THAT MOVED OUT OF RED HOOK AND NY THE WEBSITE FOR THE NEWS PAPAER IS: WWW.REDHOOKSTAR#@*%! ENJOY
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PEGGY DELLA PORTE RODRIGUEZ |
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2-2-2012 06:09 AM
HELLO EVERYONE, I HOPE ALL IS ENJOYING THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER.
THERE IS A NEW FREE PAPER IN TOWN CALLED THE "RED HOOK STAR-REVUE".
WE HAVE MANY TALENTED WRITERS AND A MUST HAVE TO FIND IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD STORES AND READ IT.
THIS WEEK WE HAVE MARY ANNE MASSARO FROM RED HOOK WRITING A WONDERFUL LOVE STORY ABOUT GARY & DIANA BURKARD, FINDING LOVE ON A TWO-WAY STREET CALLED ( VAN BRUNT) STREET. ALSO, A WONDER STORY WRITTEN BY DANETTE VIGILANTE MY COUSIN, AND ALSO UNCLE GEORGIE FRANQUI'S DAUGHTER. MR BURKARD WROTE SUCH A HEART WRENCHING STORY OF HIS SON RICHIE THAT PASSED AWAY LAST MONTH. IT HAS TO BE THE HARDEST THING IN THE WORLD TO BURY A CHILD, MY MOM DID AND WAS NEVER THE SAME. WE LOST MANY WONDERFUL, CARING PEOPLE FROM RED HOOK MUCH TOO SOON. I WISH THE BURKARD FAMILY MY HEART FELT CONDOLENCES AND PRAYERS. GOD BLESS AMERICA & RED HOOK FOREVER.
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Shirley Kerrigan |
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Someone below thought I was an ordained minister in the Lutheran church, no I was ordained by a non-denomational church in NJ. I minister to women. My grandson and his fiancee go to a Lutheran Church which I attend about once a month. I love neighborhood churches and their church is in a lovely town in PA. Everyone knows everyone. The Pastor is a great teacher.
June 2-1-2012 10:10 PM
Sorry, Shirley, I misunderstood. As I said earlier, I was raised Greek Ortho. and my husband is Catholic, and neither allow women ministers or priests. So your post intrigued me. Keep up the good work.
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Tony 2-2-2012 05:15 AM
June, just another tidbit of info. In the Lutheran Church, women can be ordained ministers. It is very common, as a matter of fact.
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June 2-2-2012 10:52 AM
Thanks for the info Tony. We need more women getting involved in work like that. I'm trying to beome a Eucharistic Minister in our church.
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Marie |
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2-1-2012 08:33 PM
To Lucy Ann Fraser.
I was reading back over some of the very old postings, and noticed your address was Brooksville Fl. Talk anout a small world, you told me before we lived in the same building at 166 Conover St.. I left there in '58 and went to Mill Basin. Then Long Island when I married and then the trek to Spring Hill and Brooksville, Fl. We still have a home in Florida and live in East Tenn. now. But we go back and forth alot because our kids and grandkids are all there in Fl.
I think there are a lot of us from Brooklyn living in that part of Florida. We moved to Tenn. because we missed the SNOW, really. We don't get much, just enough to make it feel like winter and Christmas. How long have you lived in Brooksville? We were in that area for about 20 years. Small world.
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2-1-2012 07:46 PM
One fond memory I have of Wolcott St. and Van Brunt In the 50's. All my uncles would get oysters, clams, crabs, beer, watermelon and we would have a block party for July 4th. I remember my second cousin Eddie Biagini (Eddie Boy) burned my hand with a sparkler. An accident, I think. Lol
Us kids drank soda of course, but we did eat the shellfish, I got soooo sick. But I still remember all the fun.
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e. tweedy |
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2-1-2012 02:47 PM
In case anyone is interested. I am a
Lutheran working for the Catholic
Church for 11 years. My daughter is a
nun in the Sisters of Mercy for 25 years.
They have been very good to me and
I have been very good to them. I worship in the Lutheran Church but I
also go to the Catholic Church. GO
Figure. I am very happy in my choices.
Visitation alumnus 2-1-2012 05:05 PM
Thanks for all your help, we need more people like you.
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visitation alumni 2-1-2012 06:32 PM
youand your family have been a cornerstone in red hook since i cannot even pratically remember i guess 1958 that i can remember i was born in 48 but i went to cullens bakery at 10 years ofage for donuts i would see your dad taken them out of oven and the crumb buns were so hot i ate them before i gt home best in the land you dont hav to explain yourself to these son of a b.....s the sites boss should try to devise a way to get everyones e mail correct address so as someone would have to answer for there posting if there posting was vulger or off base
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disgusted viewer 2-1-2012 06:51 PM
to mark the site commander .your site has been overrun by nutjobs is there anything you can do i have been on your site since 2008 all the originals are gone mark .probably to facebook or anywhere to get away from these people who know there names cannot be detected get a way mark to stamp them out you wont have a site eventually
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Marie 2-1-2012 08:00 PM
I'm confused. Did someone offend Elsie? I've been following the posts, but as far as I can see, she was complimented for her work in Visitation. What did I miss?
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Marie and Joe 2-1-2012 09:15 PM
To disgusted viewer. Your comments made me go back and read some of the earlier postings on this site. There is a lot of back and forth friendly chatter which is always nice and welcomed, and a few postings that got people up in arms and defensive. But for the most part, a very diversified blog. At one point in 2003, Mark is telling us to ignore the bloggers posting porn and filth on the site. Most of the recent posts have had a good response, and of course there are one or two that get a little testy with their choice of words. We are all adults here, just ignore the trouble makers and they will get bored and go away. Like Tony said, he is proud ro see that his fellow Red Hookers are engaging in such intelligent conversation, he is proud of them and said keep it up. I agree with him and I truly hope you do too. There is plenty of room for all of us to discuss many subjects. We all bring a lot to the table.
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Tony 2-2-2012 02:12 PM
Good for you Elsie. It is nice to see people who can step out of their own comfort zone and involve themselves in something that is different from what they grew up in. Keep up the good work Elsie. And you see, I am really not such a jerk, but sometimes my big mouth can't keep quiet. But when I see something that I think isn't right, I say it, but I admit I get too personal. I am gonna try to stop doing that because all of the people who have been on this site recently seem nice and nonjudgmental.
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mrs pissed off 2-3-2012 06:58 PM
to marie and joseph if u are realy marie and joseph all these years there were never 2 people just sittin written both names so i will call myself TIDILY AND WINKS this site should be called the pestbook nt the guestbook because unlike FACEBOOK YOU DONT KNOW WHO IS WRITING AND IT PISSES ME OFF THAT PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH IT. THE ORIGINALS SHOULD COME BACK ON INSTEAD OF RUNNIN TO FACEBOOK AND DECLARE THAT THE DAY OF THE IDIOTS ARE OVER.
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Marie and Joe 2-3-2012 07:10 PM
To Mrs. pissed off. All of my fathers family lived in Red Hook since 1887. They lived on Wolcott St. And died on Wolcott St. We were a very large family. They had 11 children and 9 survived. 43 grandchildren, many of whom were the originals on this site. My cousin told me of this site and I liked what I saw, but he warned me that some on the site were difficult to deal with. I did not know what he meant. Now I do. My husband Joseph and myself, were enjoying the give and take, even with the few who were getting nasty. I am very glad my dad moved us away from the Hook when he, so my sister and I didn't turn out like you.
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Bill the vet 2-3-2012 09:15 PM
There has been a lot a very interesting discussions going on for a while, very smart people, where did you all go?
Dont let miss pissed off scare you off, she can't even use her own name.
I use my real name, William (Bill) Kelly,
From Sullivan St. Some of us can actually use punctuation marks.
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Toni 2-3-2012 10:05 PM
TO MRS. PISSED OFF, JUST GO LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE NONESENSE THAT HAS BEEN POSTED ON THIS SITE FOR YEARS. MANY PEOPLE USE NICK NAMES AND SILLY NAMES, AND SOME USE BOTH THEIR NAMES BECAUSE SOME FOLKS KNOW BOTH OF THEM. WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU PISSED OFF ABOUT? YOU ARE VERY INSULTING SAYING PESTBOOK INSTEAD OF GUESTBOOK, WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? ARE YOU EVEN FROM REDHOOK? SIGN YOUR OWN NAME.
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Grace 2-3-2012 11:31 PM
Hey Marie, didn't you know this is a private blog for Lucy Fraser, Shirley Kerrigan and Harriet Harkins and their little group of friends. It's disgraceful how newcomers to the site are treated.
I was always proud of being a New Yorker and defended us to those around the country who say New Yorkers are rude. I alway said we were the friendliest people and easy to talk to and loyal friends. I'm disgusted with your little cliques and your crude put downs. Shame on you all.
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e.tweedy |
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2-1-2012 02:38 PM
I just thought I would pass it along
anyone interested. Visitation Church
is having a Valentine dinner on Sunday
Feb. 12, at 6:30 p.m. They will have a mass at 5:00 p.m. to renew your vows
and the dinner will take place at 6:30 p.m. In the upper room of the Rectory.
It is $15.00 for one and $25.00 for
two. Reservations must be in by Feb
10, 2012.
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Antonia |
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2-1-2012 07:08 AM
This isn't a serious subject or anything, but I was wondering what block White Collar filmed Peter's house. Recently they filmed another house, supposedly on the same block -- green with gables and a white porch -- and it didn't look at all familiar to me. I've lived in South Brooklyn all my nearly 50 years. Grew up on Cheever Place, live on Sackett & Bond now.
Toni 2-1-2012 05:08 PM
Can't seem to find the exact location, sites just say his house is somewhere in Brooklyn. I'll keep looking.
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Antonia 2-2-2012 07:21 AM
it seems it's supposed to be Cobble Hill. One of the recent episodes mentioned that Court & DeGraw wasn't to far away.
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Joe and Marie |
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1-30-2012 10:37 PM
Hope Romney takes Florida tomorrow. He's a decent man, he'd be good for this country.
Howie Graves Cape Coral F 2-1-2012 02:12 AM
You must be another 0ne percenter. How many people has he hired?
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Tony 2-1-2012 08:01 AM
I don't know how many he has hired, but I hear he sure has fired a lot.
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The Obvious 2-1-2012 08:17 AM
Oh listen to this. If you So#@*%!t/ Communists get your way eventually that 1% you're looking to take down will be 5% then 10% then anyone who has more than you do. If you work harder and work smarter you could end up with more. Nobody owes you anything. Giving to the less fortunate is called charity. Taking from the more fortunate and "distributing" it to the less fortunate is called THEFT. Wake up America
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The Obvious 2-1-2012 08:18 AM
why did it scramble so#@*%!t?
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The Obvious 2-1-2012 08:18 AM
sosha list
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Jean 2-1-2012 11:35 AM
To Howie and Tony
Romney saved existing jobs by saving the company. He cut the fat so the company didn't go under like SOLYNDRA. Don 't be so naive.
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Marie 2-1-2012 11:44 AM
To the obvious
I don't know why that word is scrambled, very disturbing. If you type it with a space between each letter it doesn't scramble.
Some here have complained that there are too many government employees making too much money. That may be true. That's what Romney did for many companies. He trimmed the fat and helped the company stay solvent. Our government is a big business that needs the fat trimmed. Romney is the man to do it. That's the correct business model, not "WE'RE GOING BANKRUPT, SO LETS SPEND ANOTHER TRILLION" mentality.
You go try and a run your business the way this administration is running this country and see how long you stay afloat.
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Bill the vet 2-1-2012 12:13 PM
Howie,
You live in Cape Coral, nice place. Lets see how long you and people like you get to keep living in nice areas. This admin. is trying to mold or change this country into the European Model. We can all see how well that model is doing in Europe, France, Spain, Greece, Italy in very serious trouble financially. This administration will tax the very rich, then as more money is needed to fund their give away programs, the greedy hand of the tax man will surely come after YOU.
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Joe and Marie 2-1-2012 01:40 PM
To the obvious, you threw me with the "sosha list" item.
I researched it, very funny. I like to learn something new.
I agree with your thinking, I don't understand why those who do agree with us have to get so hostile. We are all Americans, we just have a different political view.
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read the top 2-1-2012 01:57 PM
This site plainly says it incrypts your email address and I assume anything that looks like an email address
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Carmine 2-1-2012 02:43 PM
The battle will be between Gingrich and Romney, I wish Ron Paul would get out of the race, hes taking votes from the viable candidates. I feel sorry for Santorum, sick child and no campaign money, he would make a great VP.
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June 2-1-2012 02:57 PM
I realize that about e mail addresses and that's a good thing, but why would the word s o c i a l i s t be scrambled? It's just another word.
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Ronald Reagan 2-1-2012 03:08 PM
All dirty words are scrambled and that's a dirty word.
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June 2-1-2012 04:42 PM
Hi Carmine, I think Herman Cain would make a great vice president. That would prevent the dems from using the race card. He's a successful business man and 999 is a good idea, just needs a
Ittle tweeking.
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Ken 2-1-2012 06:09 PM
"Separation of Church and State."
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services guidelines require health insurance plans beginning on or after Aug. 1, 2012 to cover several women's preventive services, including birth control,and the morning after pill with no co-pay.The morning after pill is considered abortion by the RC Church.
Catholic institutions and other religious organizations are protesting this. The catholic Bishops are protesting this. The Government will give the church one more year to comply. Why? Is catholic teaching going to change in one year? Oh its after the election.This is an intrusion of the separation clause in preventing the free practice of religion. I hope people on this site will protest this yet again liberal invasion into our lives.
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Marie 2-1-2012 07:10 PM
Ken, I agree with you. I think there are some on this site who are not happy with some of the new postings. Most people on here are very polite and knowledgeable. Anyone is free to post as long as they keep it clean. A few have used colorful language to express themselves but it scrambles. There are several topics on here now, politics, religion, movies and pop culture and much about the old neighborhood. What's the problem? We are a diversified group of people, with many different opinions, who just happen to come from the same town. Why would the site master have a problem with that?
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Howie Graves Cape Coral F 2-2-2012 12:54 AM
To obvious it is quite obvious you refuse to let us know who you are. I guess it is much easier to ridicule someone while you are obvious.
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Gisele 2-2-2012 10:58 PM
Ken, you brought up a very serious topic. Many of us on this site are Catholic. Even those of us who are not the best catholic should be very concerned by this story. It is an assault on religion and Catholic especially. Even if you don't agree the "morning after pill" is considered an abortion, you should be concerned that A MAJOR RELIGION is being targetted and literally forced to comply with the government mandate. If this is allowed to be enforced, it will be just the beginning, of losing many of the rights and previliages we, as Americans now enjoy. Once that precedent is established, Lord, help us.
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1-30-2012 07:36 AM
to friend of a friend .visited john last week .he had health issues were they serious lets just say they were not minor but he is coming around he has sold his food business and is concentrating fully on his spiritualistic work after he takes a two week vacation .
oboy 1-30-2012 08:35 AM
TMI
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Carla 1-30-2012 03:39 PM
To oh boy. This you feel is too much information. I thought it was worded very well. Sensitive. There are those out there complaining about the political talk, saying lets get back to business. Well now we have folks talking about other stuff and there is still criticism.
How many times can one say Van Brunt St was cool,and Court St was fun. Get my drift?
I feel all conversation is welcome, as long as no profanity and sexual references are used.
It's called communication.
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That's my opinion 1-30-2012 04:01 PM
It is definitely too much personal information. I don't think anyone's business should be posted here like that.
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Carla 1-30-2012 04:41 PM
That's fair enough, but I don't know who they are referring to, so it 's not really a privacy issue. If the person 's name is given with all that info, then it's TMI.
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stacy 1-31-2012 06:36 AM
carla i dont know who you think you are but i have been on this site for about three years now and i say what i want as long as they are within the guidelines of this site and that means not crticisizing anyone who mad you the site moderator take the TMI to much info and put it where the sun dont shine you know where that is right . you should from reading all your postings seems like you know everything
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Carla 1-31-2012 01:30 PM
Stacy, I think your anger is misplaced. I am the person who defended your post. Read it again. I said it was well worded and sensitive. It was another person called OBOY who criticized your post as TMI. I thought your post was very nice, and you and your friend should share that info. Carla
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No body's business 1-31-2012 02:37 PM
STACY
PICK UP THE PHONE AND DISCUSS THAT WITH YOUR FRIEND IN PRIVATE!
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Me 1-31-2012 02:56 PM
Why didn't Stacy complain about
IN MY OPINION comment. That person slammed her comment, not Carla. I don't have a dog in this fight, but lets be fair.
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Stan Laurel 1-31-2012 05:34 PM
Stacy complained about Carla, because Stacy can't read. She can't even string together two sentences that are remotely coherent. What a marooooooon!!!
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stacy 2-1-2012 05:51 AM
you are right the three of you are morons if there are three of you its probably the work of one the best i can say is the rebirth of the three stooges are back i am through with comments to morons good bye
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fed up 2-1-2012 07:26 AM
stacy; further down you mention Johnny Perna and then you put in about his health issues (not minor) and that he sold his food busines on and on. If this isn't personal what is? You said too much, apologize and move on
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Stan 2-1-2012 07:59 AM
Stacy, I rest my case. Just go back and take a look at your reponse. It makes no sense. Learn how to punctuate and how to spell, and noone will make any negative comments towards you.
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Carla 2-1-2012 11:55 AM
STACY
My name is Carla. I read your post and thought it was fine. Right under your post someone called OBOY said you gave too much information, I didn't agree wirh him/her and I added my post DEFENDING your comment and your right to say it.
Apparently you misread the post and lambasted me and got very nasty.
I realized you peobably just made a simple mistake and yelled at the wrong person. Others, unknown to me, tried ro call the boo boo to your attention.
I naively thought you would be the kind of person who could say I'm sorry to me and we could move on. But I see you are very rude and ill bred, uneducated,vulgar and have no social skills whatsoever.
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Sonny 2-1-2012 11:59 AM
HEY STACY
VAI A FARE IN CULO, STONATO!
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Stan Laurel 2-1-2012 02:27 PM
Good for you Carla. This Stacy person has been posting about poor John Perna for a while now. She always talks too much about the guy, but honestly, it is hard to read what she writes anyway. She yelled at you because she can't get anything straight, and then she gets all Brooklyn, up in everybody's face. LOL!! She is an ingrate and gives Brooklyn people a bad name... you know, one of those Brooklyn people who think they can speak in vowels and get by...a...e....i....o...u... baba beep bada boop.
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Carla and Kris 2-1-2012 03:32 PM
Thank you "Stan". We are relatively new to this site and we just like the interaction and some very good lively discussions and topics. We are not looking to make trouble with anyone.
I thought, when I wrote defending Stacy's post, my words were clear. I'm a little annoyed at her response back. Maybe she diidn't bother reading my post again to see its real meaning.
I have made mistakes in my life and I try to apologize when necessary.
I have learned my lesson, I won't chime in and defend her posts ever again, it's apparently not welcomed. Your support is greatly appreciated.
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BAK 2-1-2012 05:02 PM
Does this Stacy person drink? If not, I think there is some Tourette's Syndrome going on with her. Don't be too hard on her, she obviously needs help and our sympathy.
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"new" jerseyite 2-1-2012 05:32 PM
Stan laurel - I know who this Stacy is, you are right, she's the type of person we were trying to get away from when we moved out of the hook.
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Tony 2-2-2012 02:09 PM
You are right BAK. I offer my sympathy to Stacy, who clearly has issues. But hey, we all do... none of us are immune to problems and doing and saying stupid sh*t sometimes.
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Carla 2-2-2012 02:23 PM
Hi Tony, you're correct, but how hard is it to say, sorry I made a mistake, it doesn't take any more effort to say something nice instead of mean. Stacy was given the opportunity a couple of times to get it right, but she chose not to. You and I have both taken heat for things we said, but we both apologized for the remarks. None of us are perfect, but how we handle adversity, is what really counts. Take care.
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Elsie, I am so sorry to hear about Visitation. I know you put your heart and soul into keeping it open. It's more than a church to us that lived there, it's a big part of our lives. I am no longer Catholic (I am Christian though) and Visitation Church holds a lot of memories. When I moved to Staten Island I joined St. Charles in Oakwood, a great church and a great priest, Father Bubendorf, he was so great and loved the kids. I taught CCD there. We need neighborhood churches but please know that everyone appreciates your efforts to keep Visitation open but there is just so much you can do as one person.
Bill 1-30-2012 01:41 PM
Unfortunately, more and more communities are consolidating parishes because of the shrinking parishioners and associated donations.
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Kris 1-30-2012 02:48 PM
I'm not trying to be mean, but that is exactly why Catholic Churches are closing. "I'M NOT CATHOLIC ANY MORE, BUT I'M CHRISTIAN".
What does that mean?
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Tony 1-30-2012 03:45 PM
Kris, it means that she is another Christian denomination. Duh?!!! Afterall, Catholics aren't the only Christians. Did you forget about the Protestants and the Born Again Christians? I guess you have. Wonder what "that means" about you?
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Carla 1-30-2012 04:12 PM
TONY, I lknow what Christian means, DUH! Apparently you need me to explain this to you.
Visitation Church is on the verge of closing because attendence is down.
People are just not going to church, or they have decided to attend another Christian Denomination Church.
THAT IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
CATHOLICS LEAVING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND GOING ELSEWHERE!
I am Catholic, born Catholic, baptised, first communion, confirmation, married in Catholic Church and I am very proud of my Catholic Faith.
I have many dear friends who are not Catholic, they are very good Christians
and we respect each others faiths.
Now try and follow this, Visitation Church may close and this lady says how sorry she is to hear that, and then admits she is no longer Catholic, but she is Christian.
Her decision to leave the Catholic Church, and others like her, is one of the reasons our Catholic Churches are struggling.
My mother was Protestant, when she married my dad in Visitation, I know what the difference is between Catholic and Christian.
It's very difficult to be a good Catholic, but it's very easy to pick another Christian Church that isn't so strict.
All Christians should stick together, but all Catholics should stick together too.
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Shirley Kerrigan 1-30-2012 04:16 PM
Carla, my choice to leave the Catholic church (in fact I was excommunicated when I married a divorced man) is my business. is it your responsibility to force people to stay even when they are no longer welcome?
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Kris and Carla Van Pelt 1-30-2012 04:21 PM
Tony, one more point. We have been reading these blogs and two of your posts seem less than kind in your choice of words regarding Born Again Christians and their tolerance of Romney's religion, and criticizing Anna and the Muslim faith.
What does that say about you?
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Carla and Kris 1-30-2012 04:33 PM
Shirley, I thought that was your situation looking at your e-mail address. That is why I said I wasn't trying to be mean.
I was in the same situation. I married my first husband in the Catholic Church, we were married 21 years, 3 children.
When we were married 20 years I learned he had two families. I got divorced and of course excommunicated. I missed my faith. I was very angry at everybody. I was a good wife and I did nothing wrong, but now I am not welcomed in my church.
It's hurts. I agree with you completely.
It bothered me so much, I contacted the Diocese and obtained an annullment. So when my second husband and I married we were able to marry in the Catholic Church. The. Church didn't make it easy,to bet the annullment, it took almost two years to accomplish, but I am very glad I did it.
I am not blaming you for how you feel, I was there myself, but the point I was trying to make is people, for many reasons are not going to church, or choosing another denomination.
I wish you much happiness, and I hope your second time around is as happy as mine is, we are on cloud nine.
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Shirley 1-30-2012 04:50 PM
Carla and Kris; I was able to find a priest later on and got absolution (go figure) and went back to the Catholic Church. I never left the church and still attend mass on occasion. I loved my church in Staten Island, St. Charles. I am now an ordained minister and visit Lutheran churches and Catholic and Assembly of God, etc. That's what I mean, we are Christians. The best thing in being Catholic is the neighborhood church, you don't find that with every denomination and I think it is so healthy for families to attend church where they live. We need neighborhoods where families look after other families, etc. Glad we understand each other and I'm so happy you are in a good marriage.
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Ken 1-30-2012 05:00 PM
Shirley,
What a coincidence. My grandson goes to CCD at St. Charles in SI. I suppose we can research this but, I think people have stopped attending all churches. The sad part is that the children in many cases are not sent to church except to maybe make their first communion in the RC Church - then bacala.
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Carla 1-30-2012 05:02 PM
Thank you Shirley, I glad you are in a good place in your life.
I know the Church is getting attacked from all sides because it is so strict, and there are some in the church who do bad things. But I try to look beyond the organized church and stay tru to my belief.
At the risk of giving TMI one more tid bit. My second husband was annulled from his first wife, because she was having an affair with a Catholic priest.
But fortunately he stayed in the church.
I agree we need neighborhood churches again. I have such beautiful memories of Visitation, I would hate to see it close. Take care.
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Shirley 1-30-2012 05:21 PM
Ken, I taught CCD at St. Charles, communion classes. I was working full time at SI Hospital in charge of EKG and raising 5 kids and remarried. I can't remember being bored, lol. I loved teaching the kids. When my son Steven was ready for his test for communion, Father Bubandorf went over the book with him, it had a lot of pictures, Steven was doing fine and Father asked one more question, pointing to the Last Supper he asked, Steven, who are they? I thought my son would fall on the floor, so Father said "Steve, its ok, you did great". When we got outside is asked my son why he got so nervous you know that is the Lord with His apostles? He said "I thought I had to name them".
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Marie 1-30-2012 05:58 PM
Shirley, your story made me laugh. When my oldest daughter was about three, we were in church on Sunday. She was always very well behaved, but this day she was constantly turning around. Now the choir master was up behind us in the organ balcony, and would announce the next hymn. My daughter kept turning around and I finally asked her what she was looking at, she said "is that God speaking, I want to see Him". I still smile when I think of that moment.
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Tony 1-31-2012 03:17 AM
My response was to Kris, not to you Carla. Are you the same person? That happens a lot around here. As far as my attacking religion, I did say Romney wouldn't win because he is a Mormon... not that I have anything against Mormons. I think you protest too much Kris, Carla, or whoever you are.
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rich Mancebo 1-31-2012 10:43 AM
Sad, but true. The church cannotremaib open with out regular parishioner's. Its wonderful to know so many old parishioner's from all over the country contribute money when thechurch is in critical condition. So many people living in Red hook don't even go to church. There was a time when if you were Catholic and didn't go to church, you couldn't hold your head up Monday morning.its amazing that Visitation has remained open thislong, the church has been struggling since the early 70's.
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Carla and Kris 1-31-2012 01:35 PM
Tony, if you are going to comment on the posts, good or bad, please read them carefully. My husband and I post on here, I am Carla and he is Kris, we discuss our comments with each other before we post. We usually agree on almost everything, so using his name or mine is not an issue with us.
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Mad as heck 1-31-2012 06:00 PM
What will happen to that beautiful old gothic building if the church closes. I shudder to think what could become of Visitation Church. Its been around since 1854, why can the diocese do something, the Catholic Church worldwide has tons of money.
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Trying to be good 2-1-2012 03:46 PM
I agree with what Rich Mancebo said, years ago everyone went to church and if you missed mass, your neighbors would call you on it. It's sad that a nice Lutheran lady has to work hard to keep this Catholic Church open. What happened to the people in Brooklyn? Come on folks it's an hour a week, and a donation. Sacrifice a beer or a pack of cigarettes, is that asking too much? No one is expecting us to be Mother Theresa, but going to Sunday Mass can be very rewarding.
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June 2-1-2012 08:52 PM
Shirley, you stated you are an ordained minister, in the Lutheran Church. I'm interested in that, please tell more. I did not know women were allowed to be ordained. My husband is Catholic, but I was raised Greek Ortho. Im pleased to see women making advances in that area.
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1-29-2012 03:49 PM
Hi everyone. Sad news. I have worked
for Visitation Church for 11 years and
now I can see the writing on the wall
If we don't increase in the number of people going to church and increase the
amount of weekly donations I am afraid that the church will close. Any ideas?
I have run fund raisers and basket sales
and etc., but to no avail. We need people. and money.
We recently had the Angeltones performing while they were excellent and
everyone liked them we still had a low
attendance. We are planning another
concert sometime in the Spring maybe
we can drum up some more people.
Former altar boy 1-30-2012 05:19 AM
The Catholic Church in general has to get with the times. The Church is so homophobic, but yet, they pass these priests who prey on little boys around, from parish to parish. People are turned off by this institutions hypocracy and no amount of fund raising by those who refuse to see this, will help. Churches will continue to close until the Church changes its stance on things and becomes more welcoming to those who see things differently. Jesus was a pretty open and liberal minded guy. So why the Church chooses to be so backwards is beyond me.
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friend of a friend 1-30-2012 05:51 AM
i am sorry to change the subject but is there any truth to the rumor that john perna is in poor physical health i heard this from a friend who knows him very well and hearing the name visitation parish reminded me of him once saying he was born in that parish i know many people write different disgusting things on this site but this is what i heard i am not kidding i do not joke like that .
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R U Kidding? 1-30-2012 07:13 AM
Former altar boy; what book are you reading? Jesus was and is not a liberal. He provided a way out of every sin and situation, He didn't suggest "it's in your genes" or you had a bad childhood. Knock it off, you don't know Him. Read the Bible
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ps 1-30-2012 07:28 AM
I meant to say that Jeus was not and is not a liberal
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Former altar boy 1-30-2012 07:56 AM
R U Kidding... what bible are you reading? Jesus hung out with tax collectors and hookers... both of whom were truly hated at that time. Jesus didn't give a flying fart what people thought about who we hung around with. It was the right wing people... the pharisees and the saducees (your conservatives of today)who wanted to stone everybody to death, who didn't follow the rules. The Church needs to act like Jesus did... he accepted and loved everyone. The Catholic Church does NOT do that. So get your facts straight before you start telling me what to think.
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Justasking 1-30-2012 07:58 AM
Friend of a friend...if the person you know, knows Johhny very well, why are you posting on this site about his health? Isn't your friends word good enough?
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You don't have the info 1-30-2012 08:33 AM
Read the book Jesus said "go and sin no more".
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My opinion 1-30-2012 05:19 PM
Former Alter Boy
With all respect, teh priests who molested boys were committing a grevious sin. The Bishops who transferred them were wrong also. The practice of homosexually is contrary to the teaching of Christ as believed by the RC Church. There are some Protestant churches that accept this practice and they are losing people at a greater rate than the RC church. So that is not the answer for church attendance. Homosexuals cannot pratice that lifestyle just as single men cannot have affairs with a woman and still be a without this sin. It is the creed of the church. Also we cannot hate or harm homosexuals for being gay.
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Jack and Lynda 1-30-2012 05:45 PM
To "in my opinion". I agree with you but many people don't understand completely the Churchs standing on this subject.
In the church, married sex is not solely for the purpose of pleasure, it is to create a baby.
The only way a baby can be created, is with a man and a woman. Now I know all about test tube babies, and sperm doners and single moms choosing a lab instead of a husband, and gay and lesbian couples adopting or surrogate pregnancies, but the old fashioned way is man and woman. The church does not recognize the alternative life styles. There are many religions around the world who frown on that life style, that is why these non denominational churches are popping up, their rules are so lax that it is easy to belong.
Jesus didn't have it easy. Being a good Catholic is not easy, it is a constant struggle in this world, but we still must try to be the best we can, and follow the rules as dictated to us.
There is a church in my area called the Cowboy Church. They meet once a week in a rodeo building and sing country western songs. That's it. There is no alter, no cross or crucifix, no prayers, no communion or sacrements nothing even close to being called a conventional church. BUT they call themselves Christians. PHOOEY!
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rich Mancebo 1-31-2012 10:53 AM
Yes some bad things have happened over the years in the Catholic church. Man is responsible for his own actions not. Catholicism. Shame on any man that hides behind the cloth, God will deal with them on judgement day.
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My opinion 1-31-2012 03:39 PM
Would John P. appreciate you hens discussing his health issues on this site? Much too personal.
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It is good to see people talking on the website about things that really matter. Usually, everyone gets their panties in a bunch when this happens, but lately, everyone has been very open. This makes me feel pretty good, because I want so much to feel good about the neighborhood I grew up in, which wasn't always so fair. Keep it up people.
Marie 1-29-2012 01:15 PM
Thank you Tony, you kind words are greatly appreciated. This stuff is very important to all of us.
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I like peace too 1-30-2012 08:35 AM
Tony, that was nice but it looks like you spoke too soon oh boy
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I'm from red Hook Cira 1954-64 . In 1961 I was given a horse shoe key chain with a penny in it from a little fella named Eugene moran...I dont remeber much reguarding him but came accross it today and saw the name and date scribbled on it! whew with all the twists and turns in my life it suprises me that its still in my posession.If you know him hed be in his 60s would you mention it to him thanks Lucy Red Hook Chick 4eva in the heart!
Lucy 1-27-2012 06:57 PM
O.M.G.If my math is correct it would have been in my posession 51 years! Amazing!
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Jean 1-27-2012 08:50 PM
Lucy, I love your e-mail address. What fun.
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Marie 1-27-2012 09:33 PM
Lucy,
I lived in Red Hook 1948-57. I remember all the gum under the tables in Wilums Ice Cream Parlor. My first gift from a boy was in the fifth grade in Visitation, Robert Piano gave me a Christmas present, a Mickey Mouse puzzel. I was very embarrassed, I was so very shy. It was so sweet of him, I remember very little of him, except that I thought he was very cute. He was my dance partner in the school play, we did the fox trot. My mother found the box with the puzzel pieces in it a few years ago, so I still have it.....55 years.....nice memories.
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Lucy 1-29-2012 01:31 PM
It is TRUE this is my fifth new life I am hoping this ones better than the others were! lol! And to the other gal cant seee ur name at the moment isent it fun to find something so cute after all these years?!I was like 11 or 12 maybe...oh! and hello!
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Ken 1-29-2012 08:29 PM
Marie you mentioned Willams Ice Cream Parlor. I remember a strange incident that happened there about 1955. A guy and gal were sitting at a table. They were on a date - about 16 or 17. The girl ordered a banana split. After eating a few bites she said that she wanted no more of it. The guy then dumped the banana split onto her nice dress. She screamed and began to cry. The guy told her that he was sorry but that he needed to teach her a lesson about ordering things that she really didn't want. I think that this ended their romance.True story. The folly of youth!
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Greg 1-29-2012 08:38 PM
There have been a few people on this site who say we have to give Obama credit for the good things he has done. I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that he has done many things to hurt this country.
Unstable foreign policy. Going around the world on his "apology tour". Faulty domestic policy, questionable alliances, past and present.
Hitler was a megalomaniac, criminal, and just plain nuts, but he and the Nazi's did do many great things for Germany. Many of Nazi Germany's inventions and discoveries helped advance the world in medicine, computer technology, aero-space technology, and many other areas. The point my friends is, just because you do a few good things, doesn't mean you are doing a good job in total.
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Greg 1-29-2012 08:52 PM
SORRY Lucy, I posted under the wrong entry.
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Marie 1-30-2012 06:07 PM
Ken what years did you live in Red Hook?
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Ken 1-31-2012 04:31 PM
Marie,
MY parents were raied in Red Hook. I lived there from 1940 to 1946 _56 Wolcott St. From 1950 to 1960 at 391 Van Brubt St.We lived in Park Slope 46 to 50.
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Marie 1-31-2012 06:08 PM
Ken, I was born in 1948, we lived at 70 Wolcott then until 53, then Conover St. til 58. It was a nice neighborhood back then. Some recent sites, like Zillow and such, show the area is looking better, a sort of urban renewal. Nice to see.
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Bobby D. 2-1-2012 08:38 AM
Hey Chubby, you make a good point. I just think some of the great programs our country has in place should be used for a temporay hand up. Food stamps medicaid, public assistance can make a difference in keeping a family together and not become a liability of the state for an even greater expense. There are families out there that gave up there health care and sometimes putting less on the table just to pay the mortgage. I dont think the polititions look at the whole picture in there smear campaigns to discredit the other party. What they should be doing is coming up with a way to fix it. Oh and by the way as an adult I have been blessed to always have work and Ive never gone to bed hungry since
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Mike AKA Chubby 2-1-2012 01:53 PM
Bobby D.
You make sense. I read recently that one of the repub. candidates wants to make the positions in Congress a part time job, let them all have other "real" jobs and just put time in congress. Then they would know what the rest of us have to deal with. Normal salaries, the same medical insurance available to us, same kind of retirement funds, then they could relate to the common man and make better decisions. They are all rich, and are too far removed from us regular folks. They work for us, I think they have forgotten that. My real name is Mike.
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1-27-2012 02:23 PM
Bill you made many good observations. One recent post gave some stats for food stamps. His stats were correct, but some on this site still said they were "spun". On the news this pm, the food stamp issue was on and they indicated it is up 45% since Pres. Obama took office, also, Associated Press has numbers that back up that statement.
I agree with you, Pres. Obama was too inexperienced to hold that office. There is no on the job training with this position. It's much too important. He does not like a capitalistic system, and everything he is doing, proves that point. You don't raise taxes in a recession, PERIOD!
In his SOU speech, he said raise tax percentage on millionaires (one million dollars and up) from 15% to 30%. that's a job killer for sure. Also, he never did clarify how he arrived at the million dollar threshhold. Is it one million GROSS, or ADJUSTED GROSS, MODIFIED ADJUSTED GROSS or TAXABLE INCOME? He's too superficial in his approach to issues, domestic and foreign. If he is doing this to destroy our economy and capitalism, on purpose, then he needs to go. If he is doing this because he doesn't realize the damage his policies can do, then he is unqualified for the job, and he needs to go. I will say this again for those out there who keep screaming racism, IT'S HIS POLICIES I DON'T LIKE, NOT THE MAN.
Bill 1-27-2012 03:05 PM
Marie,
Each SOU is planned theater. The progressive tax system (I think Taft started it) has gone crazy. He said 30% for millionaires, but also said no tax increase for middle class below $250k. What about everyone in between? The left has been floating the idea of removing all tax deductions to generate more social program revenue.
Spend, spend , spend is the only chorus they know. While it may be disguised in different packages, it is still that same progressive, marxist, communist philosophy.
All ISMs are tools of the left, sexism, racsim, agsims, unionism, etc.
There was a time in this country when we needed unions, but that time has gone the way of the pony express. Government workers in general shouldn't be making more than the private sector workers who are paying their salaries.
It doesn't matter who is in the presidentail office, Carter, Clinton, Obama, the left (including the media) will protect them no matter what the circumstances and claim ISM on a regular basis.
We will have to see how the election turns out. We can't afford 4 more years of this administation. We need a reversal of course and policy before we go over the cliff ala Greece!
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Marie 1-27-2012 06:30 PM
Bill, one comment I must make about government workers. I was a government worker for 25 years. State and federal. I was not a union member. I didn't want to pay the dues. Our salaries at my grade level were nothing great. I could have made much more money in the private sector, but I chose to stay with the federal government because of the flexibility of work hours. I worked 4pm to 1am, it suited my family
Iife better. That was my choice. Now, the upper echelon of the agency were paid well, I don't know exactly how well, and how they compared to the private sector, but the average government worker is not rolling in dough. Benefits were good, but even with that, my benefits were still better when I worked in Manhattan on Wall St. for a major bank, which the private sector. I can't find any reliable source to verify, but I think there are some very well paid positions in Wash D.C. I know from being employed in the Treasury Dept. you have directors, asst. directors, asst to the asst. and secretary to the director, and sect. to the asst. director, etc. there is too much pork in the government.
When I worked at the IRS, we worked like dogs. Every minute of every hour was accounted for and had to be documented on our time sheet. Even bathroom time. Your evaluation was measured by your speed and accuracy.
In any job you will find goldbrickers, but they didn't last long there, it was too obvious if you couldn't keep up, and most left on their own before being let go. I agree wholehearted that the ranks should be thinned, and there are too many at the top making too much money, but for the most part, it's not the rank and file workers making the big bucks. Gee if I had made the big bucks, I wouldn't be blogging here about politics, I'd be in Capri on my yacht!
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Marie 1-27-2012 06:51 PM
Phil, I checked out factcheck#@*%! to see why we are getting different numbers. Typical of politics, they are playing around with phraseology. Gingrich would be correct to say the number of people on food stamps now is at a statistic high. That's true. Now here is where semantics come into play. George W. Bush added 14.7 million people to the Food Stamp Program. President Obama has added 14.2 million to the Food Stamp Program. OK. Technically Bush did add more than Obama, but Bush did that over an 8 year period, Obama has done almost the same amount in just 2 years and 10 months.
So, at the rate he is going, Obama will be the food stamp president. Thanks for that site, it was very helpful.
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pvc 1-28-2012 03:22 AM
marie thanks. let us not forget when this program began to rise and that`s due in part to the economy and I might add the easing of availability under the Bush administration. which to me was a positive move. we should also not forget that Bush upon entering office was faced with a 9 billion dollar surplus. Obama on the other hand faced a country on the verge of financial disaster. I suppose the food stamp use will continue to rise until things get better. having said that , thank the lord for the program . it`s the kind of thing a good country should and does do. we help those in need. but today I`ll drive to the Hook from upper connecticut to see my art dealer.but as soon as I come through the tunnel I`ll make a right to stop at Nicks and purchase my wifes favorite sandwich and the other will be for me .ater that it`s off to Caputos on court street for some great bread. then and only then will I attend to business. and maybe a slice or two of Bitz,just to hold me over. Phil
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Bill 1-28-2012 07:31 AM
Just 8 months after entering office we were attacked. The economy went into the tank, airlines were crippled, and we invaded Iraq.
When we were talking billions of debt during GWB's term the nation was screaming to stop the spending.
Now we are talking trillions and the people are screaming to stop.
But we are once again hearing a raise in the natioanl debt ceiling rather than an across the board reduction in spending.
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Ken 1-28-2012 11:42 AM
Marie, PVC originally made the statement that the number of people on food stamps under bush was greater than obama. These are total numbers. He was incorrect. THe rate of increase is an entirely different stat. Either PVC does not know the difference between total and rate of change or he is putting us on.
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Bill the vet 1-28-2012 06:36 PM
George Soros' name popped up on this site. I needed to research this man. He is a billionaire who hates America. He openly admits that America should be destroyed and replaced with a new world order. This man is scary because he has beough down several currencies in Europe, Eurasia and Africa. Whatever he wants, Obama does his bidding. Don't take my word for it,
look him up yourself. This man is the anti-christ, and he's Obamas biggest financial backer. I don't like the association of our president with someone like that.
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Marie 1-28-2012 08:34 PM
Ken, I agree. We are at a statistical high right now with people on food stamps.
One point to help those who don't understand yet.
George W. Bush added 14.7 million people to the food stamp program over 8 years. That's 1.8 million per year on average.
Barack Obama has added 14.2 million people to the food stamp program in just under 3years. That's 4.7 million per year on average.
At that rate, if Obama stays in office 8 years, he would add 37.8 million people to the food stamp program.
Potentially, Bush 14.7 million 8 years
Obama 37.8 million 8years
He's doing something wrong.
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Bill the vet 1-28-2012 08:56 PM
Barack H. Obama is a college professor. He thinks he is still teaching and has a curriculum to follow. He has a format to follow. He can be philosophical. Abstract thinking.
Now he is the leader of the free world. Dollars measured in numbers almost too great to comprehend. He throws billions and trillions around without a second thought apparently. $500 billion to Solyndra, GONE, and now there are other companies about to implode that he gave billions to in the name of "green energy".
When your college student child abuses the credit card you gave him/her, you put a stop to it.
Now it is time to tell this man, the buck stops here. No more blank check Mr. President.
This is not a class project, on how to run a company, or country for that matter. This is the real deal.
Mr. Obama, you are fortunate you are not in school, you would get an F from me.
If the last three years is an indication of what you can do, then you need to go.
This country cannot afford another 4 years of your flawed policies.
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Marie 1-28-2012 09:22 PM
Phil, that was very sadistic of you to tease us with FOOD. You would scream if you saw what East Tennessee considers great pizza.
There is one place, little hole in the wall, I won't say the name because you never know who reads this. Well he is Italian from the Bronx, born in Italy, so I naturally assumed the pizza would be pretty good.
WRONG! I don't know what was not right, but frozen pizza would have been better, and cheaper. Well, about a month later I was in the supermarket and my Italian Bronx pizza guy was buying mozzerella cheese shreaded in a bag PROCESSED CHEESE and generic tomatos in a can. Now I know why it tasted like it did. So now I make my own, from scratch, dough too. It's time consuming but it's good. Fattening too. I haven't had a good Italian bread since I left NY 22 years ago.
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frank.c 1-29-2012 02:18 AM
gee I lost my glove when I was 12, must have been bush that took it!
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pvc 1-29-2012 03:13 AM
ladies and gentlemen if the truth is to be known instead. it wasn`t the 911 attacks that put this country into an economic tale spin. it started way before that. Buying a house became a business instead if a long term investment. the necessity for having ones dream house immediately I might add led to the explosion of prices which led us into the housing crisis of today. as I`ve pointed out in prior posts . the administration was briefed on al queda and didn`t pay attention. the administration then went to war with Afghanistan, and then for no good reason attacked Iraq. Billions in revenue were wasted at the worst time possible in our fragile economy. let us also not conveniently forget the 9 billion in surplus the Bush administration inherited. I see no one commented on that. say what you will but those are facts. how in the world can anyone put out a forest fire in 3 years that took over ten years to create. . plus we lost our moral compass during the bush administration . read michael Hatynes interview with Dick Cheney and view the last War Crime when it hits the screen. and to the last person who suggested my having lost my glove and am all about blaming bush. don`t talk unless you can improve the silence.
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Bill 1-29-2012 04:51 AM
PVC,
You are correct! One of the major contributors to the current fiscal madness is housing. When Congress passed the Commnunity Reinvestment Act of 1977, the intend was to level the playing field for all potential home buyers. Unfornately, the government program compelled banks to hit quotas for home sales to minorities, many of which were risky and not affordable.
Many of of these home mortgages are held by Freddie & Fannie - taxpayer funded enterprises.
When politicians were screaming about the insolvency of F&F, Frank and Dodd assured the nation a problem did not exist. Well I guess history has proven them wrong.
I am sure there are many other programs that are in trouble that we have yet to hear about. Many of the programs are dated, bloated, and ineffective.
No viable compnay can survive in such a state, so our government, with layers and layers of waste, is no different; except "We the people" pickup the tab.
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ProudHooker 1-29-2012 11:55 AM
All of you sound like a bunch of smart cookies to me. I am proud of all the Red Hook peeps on this page, who are talking intelligently about issues and sharing ideas. Good for you.
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Marie 1-29-2012 01:12 PM
Thank you for your support. We need more people giving their input on this subject. It is very helpful to hear different view points, we can each benefit from each other.
I noticed there are still many posts talking about the good old days in the Hook, so we are just adding to the site, not dominating it. There is room for all.
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pvc 1-29-2012 03:35 PM
thank the lord dodd is gone but watch what he tries to lobby for out in Hollywood. the other Frank isn`t running again thank God . and Lieberman is also retiring which to me is great. all dems except Lieberman in the end. People for awhile thought buying a house was a business. the smart guys caught on and decided to feast on the situation. the people are wrong yes but why did the banks lend out our money in the first place? this is not a one side of the aisle or other problem ,. all are complicit. including the the greed that has overtaken this society. this deep recession is a wake up call for all. you vote for and defend whomever , but vote it`s our responsibility to clean house. you do what you want and I`ll and like minded people will do what we feel is right. at least we`re talking about it and seriously engaged. that`s why this is so great
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Marie 1-29-2012 05:30 PM
Here is another fact about George Soros. For decades, his company, CERBERUS has been acquiring all the gun and ammunition manufaturers worldwide. He then formed them into a holding company called THE FREEDOM GROUP.
GEORGE SOROS can halt the flow of guns and ammo and basically control that market.
The more you read and the deeper you dig, the more you will realize just how dangerous this guy is. He has ties with the Ruckus Society, with funding from the Tides Foundation. Which is part of Soros' Open Socierty Inst. who is behind the Day of Rage, 3-25-11, which is became Occupy Wall Street.
He is also tied into ACORN and SEIU which Barack Obama was asssociated with. He was a civil rights lawyer who defended Acorn ina law suit. Obama admits Acorn and SEIU are his favorite union organizations.
Pres.. Obama has appointed a former SEIU lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Realtions Board.
Becker stated "I don't believe people should have the right to refuse to join a union......the only thing they should have the right to decide is WHICH union to join". He also stated "all worker should be in a union, and all unions should be controlled by the government".
I don't know about you, but I don't
Iike the sound of that.
What many people don't realize is that along with Barack Obama's plans to bring CHANGE to America, are many unsavory characters, with very questionable backgrounds, and who have a very different vision for this country than most of us would want.
When Pres. Obama was elected to the White House, he brought with him a plethera of leftist, radical extremists, with whom he apparently shares a vision.
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Bill the vet 1-29-2012 07:32 PM
When Bill Clinton left office, he left a budget surplus of $127 billlion, in 2001.
Bush's deficit was $412 billion in 2004, an he managed to lower it to $319 billion in 2005. The capitall gains bubble burst,and the slowing economy and the war added to the deficit increase.
Clinton's budget surplus was not totally accurate. It was unusually inflated, according to the Brookings Institute reports. Because interest rates were so high in the early 90's, capital gains tax payments were falsely inflated. At the end of the 90's they were up anout $90 billion dollars. This of course made the surplus seem much better than it really was. A fast growing economy covers up a lot of mistkes.
By the time George W. came to power, the economy was slowing, and that along with 911 and the housing debcle and then funding the war, the deficit numbers increased.
Just like Obama says he inherited the economy from Bush, likewise, Bush inherited the economy from Clinton.
It would be nice if each president could start with a clean slate, but it doesn't work like that. The next president will have to deal with the situation Obama leaves.
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Ken 1-29-2012 08:44 PM
FOOD STAMPS
I wondered why people who get food stamps also get food from charitable food pantries. I was talking to a cousin who volunteers and runs a food pantry along with a soup kitchen. She told me of a family of 4 who makes under $25 k a year and pays $900 a month rent. The food stamps do not cover the need. I did a make believwe estimate at the gov web page . This family would receive about $250 a month. NOt much. I request everyone that can, please contribute food to a pantry at your church, synagoge or otherwise. People really need it.It is bad out there. Don't worry that someone is a fake. Most of the pantries check them out.
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Jean 1-29-2012 09:22 PM
I think Frank C. did improve the silence. George W. Bush has, by some, been blamed for all the problems this administration is having.
Mr. O has to take responsibility for his failed policies.
Like to hear from you again Frank C.
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pvc 1-30-2012 07:56 AM
Jean what failed policies are you talking about .we all know what he inherited . we also know that Iraq was totally wrong. his policy towards GM worked out . his health care policy hasen`t even taken effect yet.his war on terror trumps gwBushes by miles . He helped rid the world of quadaffi. we`ve had 22 months of job growth. he also wanted to reduce the payroll tax for the average working american but was of course stone walled by the republicans. the republicans caused or cresit rating to be lowered by playing politics with the raising of the debt limit, which had become a no brainer until a President Obama. I`ve also never seen such disrespect of the office as is happening to our first black president. as far as improving the silence i ask How? I provide facts you provide opinions if you an`t realize that the situation was bound to get worse before it got better, I`m sorry to dissapoint you but that`s how things go. I find myself saying the same things over and over again that are factual and mosrly what I get are opinions not facts. get behind him and help it`s your country do something positive for it. it`s easy to sit on the sidelines and complain. just like you do.you don`t like him . so what he`s looking ahead and not for a quik fix.
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Bill 1-30-2012 01:07 PM
PVC - Today's headline:
January 30, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Treasury ups auto bailout loss estimate
By David Shepardson Detroit News Washington Bureau90Comments Washington -
The U.S. Treasury Department boosted its estimate of government losses in the $85 billion auto bailout by $170 million.
In the government's latest report to Congress this month, the Treasury upped its estimate to $23.77 billion, up from $23.6 billion.
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Bill 1-30-2012 01:26 PM
PVC,
Comments like “I’ve also never seen such disrespect of the office as is happening to our first black president” do nothing to advance the conversation. As I have said time and again, we need to get past race if we are every going to have parity in this country. However, once again, whether through nurturing or the fact that you are black, bringing race into the discussion without reason is simply inflammatory.
If you said “respect for the office of the President” that would have been more than adequate? Throwing in the president's race nullifies your argument. Case in point, the president if bi-racial, should we continually address his Caucasian side? Regrettably, absent a positive record to tout, the same old scorched earth, destroy the opponent; racist allegations will be employed by Obama’s surrogates to include the media.
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marie 1-30-2012 03:13 PM
Bill, nicely said. I have posted several facts about George Soros, and have yet to read any positive or negative comments geom anyone on yhis site. The statements I made are very easily verified. Soros is very open about his goal to bring the US down.
But those who just blindly follow and choose not to see the dangerous path we are on, will never see the truth.
Obama's failed policies are strangling small businesses, not allowing us to drill our own resources, not allowing Boeing to open a factory in the Carolinas because its a right to work state and anti union, we know what Obama thinks of unions. Raising taxes on corp. and forcing them out of the country, causing class warfare, should I go on? He did take out some terrorists, fine, but as I said before, just because he did a couple of good things, that doesn't give him a pass on everything else. Many people on this site are very well indormed and post very detailed well researched factual comments. So the comeback that no one has presented any facts to the liberal argument is factually not true.
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Kenny P. 1-30-2012 03:27 PM
Barack Obama is NOT black, he is a mulatto. See Webster's Dictionary, the offspring of a black parent and a white parent, is a mulatto.
But Mr. Obama chose to capitalize on the black part of his heritage. He was in school as a minority quota student. He married a black woman, he was a Civil Rights attorney fighting for minority causes. He was a community organizer for black and other minority causes.
Remember, he stated he did not know all the facts, but he spoke nonetheless, the WHITE policeman was wrong, and the BLACK man was right. He then had to hold a beer fest to smooth things over.
To say he is this country's first black president is not accurate. He is this country's first non-white president, or first mulatto president. Fact.
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pvc 1-30-2012 04:25 PM
I`m half sicillian since they were constantly under attack from the Moors I guess that could make me half black. your attitude toward the president and our country are whats really inflamitory. you sir and many here are Bigots not republicans just plain ordinary BIGGOTS which in turn makes you ignorant. you talk about visitation but probably haven`t gone to mass in years because if you did you wouldn`t be trying to find anything you can come up with just to get rid of the first black man who is indeed brilliant and a forward thinker, when most of you are talking about all the old times . See wall at the polls now yahear
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Kenny P. 1-30-2012 05:12 PM
PVC
Exactly what part of my statement was not true or accurate?
To make a factual statement, and not using any ethnic slurs, or bad language does constitute a biggoted statement.
On the other hand, you my friend through insults and name calling around freely.
Mr. Obama is our president, not our black president, and your referring to biggots in the same sentence as the word republican speaks volumns about your biggoted mentality.
Nothing in my previous post is evenc remotely close to being a biggoted statement. Only a narrow minded biggot would read that into my statement.
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Marie 1-30-2012 06:24 PM
Pvc, sorry I don't agree with your last statement. Just because you don't agree with the job the president is doing doesn't mean you are any less a Christian, Catholic or Jew for that matter. In fact, to be a good Catholic, you should reject this administration because of their views on abortion. I have said this many times but I'll say it again. It's not the man I don't like, it's his policies.
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Greg 1-30-2012 07:09 PM
Pvc, if you are half Sicilian you can't be half black. You are part black. According to the Ethnic Genome Project, Sicilans have 4.4% MTDNA (maternal) DNA from Africa.
No one here is attacking your ancestry, color should not enter into the policical dialogue.
Some rejected Jack Kennedy because he was Catholic. He proved religion was a non issue.
We 're criticizing policy here, openly and honestly. It't not personal pal.
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Marie 1-30-2012 08:01 PM
Kenny P.
Four of my grandchildren are mulatto. Their mother, our daughter prefers we call them "mixed". I hate that label. I was in a park one day with their oldest girl, she was about three, very cute, and a woman asked me "what is she a mix of". I was annoyed, she's a child not a puppy. I was tempted to answer her with sarcasim and say she mixed with poodle and great dane! I prefer the word mulatto, if someone really needs to know.
What you said about the president was not racist, it's fact.
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pvc 1-31-2012 06:12 AM
facts 22 sreaight months of Job growth. fact the dow has doubled under this admiistration. fact homosexuality in the service is no longer a problem. fact Iraq is in the rear view mirror. fact fact GM is a success. 3 million jobs saved makes it so!fact Black is not a bad word. fact inside trading by congressmen is about to be a non issue because of President Obama. fact Obamas health care plan mimics Romneys health care plan for massachusetts. Fact wall street is now under real pressure from the justice dept. If I wanted to gamble my money away I can go to Foxwoods I don`t need some wall street hot to do that. fact business start ups are up more than they were during the dot com era. fact bin laden and a bunch of other maniacs are no longer a problem or a threat to this country. fact job growth under former president Bush for his 8 years in office was 0.6%. Fact congress has refused to accept almost every nomination for dept heads the president has put forth so far. obstructionism is alive and well in washington. fact the republican congress refusses to grant the presidents request for tax cuts for the middle class unless he submits to their plan to keep subsidising the rich. are you all asleep yet since there`s plenty more.
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pvc 1-31-2012 06:25 AM
Marie I sense your discomfort with your daughters choice to marry a black man. you love the children but aren`t to crazy about the decision. you are extremly defensive when it comes to that . does your son in law agree with you. by the way the italians were treated the same as were the irish upon immigrating to this country. call it what you will I and many call it biggotry.
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Bobby D. 1-31-2012 11:04 AM
So what's wrong with food stamps.people gotta eat. Wish they were around when I was a kid. Went to bed hungry alot. No kid should go to bed hungry
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Marie 1-31-2012 01:54 PM
Phil, you have been reading my posts for several weeks now. I thought I made my views perfectly clear about how my children were raised. They were taught to respect people cor who they are, not judge them by their color. We were able to remove color from many conversations in our daily lives. She dated several boys in high school and not all of them were white. As long as the young man was decent and treated her with respect, my husband and I were OK with her decision.
You seem to read many posts with blinders on. Not all white people are biggoted. Not all black people Re biggoted. True there are many, and my son-in-laws family was very opposed to the marriage. His sister refused ro attend the wedding and to this fay has never seen her 2 nieces and 2 nephews. I stand behind my earlier post, bi-racial unions are so common place today, and the children of those unions are just children, and I feel someone asking what they are "MIXED" with is insulting, and unnecessary.
Just think about this, do people ask a white parent what their child is mixed with? Are they Irish and German, or Polish and Italian? The point is this is a child, just like any other child.
Please don't insult me and try and put words in my mouth about this issue.
The only reason this topic was discussed at all, is because some on this site, you included, keep insinuation our dislike of President Obama is because he is half black, or half white if you prefer.
I do protest too much, but not for yhe reasons you give, I protest stupidity.
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Marie 1-31-2012 02:45 PM
Please excuse the typos, I'm typing on a cell phone.
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Chubby 1-31-2012 03:28 PM
To Bobby D. I'm saddened to hear that you had to go to bed hungry when you were a child. No person and especially a child should go hungry in this country. TV shows us pictures of children in foreign lands starving to death but we very rarely if ever see the severe poverty in our own country. I agree, thank goodness for the food stamp program. I feel the real issue behind this issue is that the economic health of our country is very poor. If we can turn the economy around and get people back to work, then the numbers on the welfare rolls will go down. I never went to bed hungry as a kid, but I did as a young adult. Lost my job, my apt. and lived in my car for a couple of months til things got better. We can 't cure all the ills in the world, but hunger should be paramount in our fight. I eat too much now.
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RAL 1-31-2012 04:06 PM
This is to pvc. I am a relative of someone on the blog. He told me about the jokes and I was searching for them when my eye caught some of the serious talks. Very heavy stuff. What I am about to say may make some angry out there, but its my life so here goes. I look like Im mixed race. I look more black than white. My parents are white. My great grandfather on my fathers side was black and it followed the bloodline to me. It caused some problems for me growing up. Nasty gossip about my mom, you can imagine the trash talk. Blacks didnt accept me totally and neither did whites. Im 53 and never married. Kids from mixed couples sometimes have a rough time. Thats my story. Sorry if it offends any one.
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Shirley, how do you type so much in and not get stopped with the message your entry is too long. Whats the trick.
Shirley 1-27-2012 08:11 AM
I didn't type it, I copied it and pasted it. Hope I didn't take up too much space but thought it was interesting.
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Mr White Daily Planet 1-27-2012 01:08 PM
no it was very interesting, I just keep getting the too long message when i cut n paste. You , you got a gift
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